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#1 h0B0

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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:02 PM

Hello fellow hawkenites.

I will address the topic based on: the first OB build items and internals stats( well apparently not since i keep updating it ), the assumption that you will want to maximize the gains for the amount of time played, the assumption you are new to the game and that you do not intend to spend money.

0. Free MC: Achievements will grant you 400 MC once, for playing 1h of hawken. You will get this bonus only once. Use those points wisely and remember cosmetics can not be purchased with HC so use them wisely.

1. Know your mech: Welcome to Hawken. As a new player the first thing you will want to do is the basic training. Laila is a friendly lass she will guide you through the basics of the games features. Now that you are familiar with the basics of Hawken you can go back to your garage. In the mech shop you will notice 2 mech available for rental. Unlock them both. It is important to note that a rented mech will gain experience but you will however be unable to customize it until you have purchased it. Now you should have 3 mechs in "your mech" section of the garage, time to start wrecking some mechs. Click the Deploy icon and switch to the matchmaking tab. Select your preferred server location and click on the game mode of your choice. Play a lot of games. The more games you play the greater your understanding of the games mechanic and in time it will be easier for you to determine what items/internals fit your playstyle. Try out all the mechs you have at your disposal. There are 3 types of mechs in Hawken(A, B and C). Each type has its own set of stats related to armor (Hit points) and mobility. It is important to get a feel for the weapons as the game is limited in its number of weapons and these weapons are repeated throughout the different purchasable mechs. Getting a feel of the different classes and weapons will allow you to choose a mech that fits your playstyle with more ease.

1.5 Read the forums: The hawken forums are full of nice surprises. With regular visits to the forums you can find posts form the devs commenting on new features or your favourite bug. But more importantly they are a great resource for promotional codes and interesting guides. Be sure to check out Poetess' thread on sharing promo codes and Saturnine's Guide to the classes of hawken.

2. Your first purchase: I would personally recommend that your first purchase be a mech. For 2 reasons 1. Diversity is the spice of life. 2. Whilst playing in a Max level 25 mech will grant you HC it will not grant you EXP unless you are willing to pay money to have that experience transferred.  So having a second mech available to start leveling up will allow you to keep gaining both HC and EXP, making your playtime overall more lucrative.

3. Prestige weapons: Upon reaching level 25 your mech will have the ability to purchase a new alternative primary weapon. These weapons are quite costly (4165 HC) so i would recommend saving up before you reach level 25.

4. Items: Items have a bigger impact on the battlefield than internals and therefore should be your second priority. There are currently 2 item slots. Each slot has its own designated items.

Offensive:
  • He charge: Fires a grenade in a low arc straight ahead of you and deals moderate damage. (this item takes skill to use properly but can quickly turn the tide in battle) Holding down the key will increase projectile speed.
  • Detonator: Similar to the TOW, it is an explosive projectile moving slowly forward. It can be detonated in mid air or when it hits an obstacle to deal explosive damage in a large area.
  • Machine gun turret: Places a MGturret in a fixed location that will track and shoot your opponent for consistent damage. (Very good item that has many uses in all situations)
  • Missile turret: Places a missile launching turret that tracks and fires at your enemies. It is important to note that due to the slow rate of fire and easily dodgeable projectiles this item is out shined by the MGturret in most occasions. (slightly lackluster at the moment)
  • EMP: Fires a projectile that explodes on contact with the environment or mechs shutting down all mechs in a wide area for a short amount of time.
Support:
  • Shield: Places a shield on the ground or on a nearby mech. The shield has a limited life and timespan. It will block all incoming damage.(good item that is very usefull in coordinated play)
  • Hologram: places a hologram generator on the ground. The hologram will crouch as you do if you repair but will not move or display muzzle flash. (Can give a slight advantage in some situations)
  • Repair charge: Drops a spark on the ground that heals all nearby mechs for 250 armor(good all round item)
  • Portable Scanner: Drops a radar on the ground. The radar will display enemy mechs in its vicinity on your radar and will enable the enemy sighted message.(can improve map control significantly)
  • Radar scrambler: drops a radar scrambler on the ground. All enemy mech walking into the scramblers radius will get an extra 4 moving targets on their radar. (lackluster, will not significantly affect any experienced pilot)
  • Blockade: Places a wall like shield in front of the player. The blockade blocks pathing and absorbs more damage than the shield, but is considerably smaller.
5. Internals: Internals currently are very expensive and do not bring much to the battlefield i suggest purchasing these only if you have left over HC you do not wish to use to purchase new mechs or items. Internals come in 3 categories. Clicking on an item in game will show you its bonus in green and malus in red. Since i am lazy i will not transcribe them in the forum, you can look them up for yourselves. (if you do the work for me i will copy/paste)

Offensive:
  • Magnetic rail: Might be valuable if you are willing to sacrifice some survivability.
  • Explosive ammunition: Similar to the magnetic rail. Becomes twice as effective on dual explosive wielding mechs like the rocketeer,grenadier and HEAT infiltrator.
  • Primary weapon loader: Mostly inconsequential but we do not yet have the data to understand its full effect yet. I do not recommend this internal.
  • Special weapon loader: Very interesting internal, probably the most useful off. int., great way to improve your dps, must have especially if you have the weapons coolant ability, or sufficient skill to handle the extra heat.
  • Armor piercing ammunition: Similar to the Explosive ammunition. Would only recommend this internal on the sharpshooter as it is the only dual wielding bullet gun mech.
  • Cooling units: Useless do not spend any HC on this internal. Part 1 : know your mech.
  • Heat sinks: Slightly less useless than the cooling unit but with a bit of skill you will be able to manage your heat without the use of this internal. Part 1 : Know your mech.
Defensive:
  • Armor: Possibly useful if you are willing to sacrifice mobility for survivability.
  • Heat resistant armor: The bonus is not worth the malus. Most explosive projectiles can be dodged, bullets on the other hand can not.
  • Reinforced armor: Could come in handy for c-class mechs who act as damage soak. possibly even on the Berserker since his ability can make up for the loss in damage.
  • Repair kit: Currently the wording on the tooltip is wrong. "+0.30/s repair start-up time" This does not make sense. If we take it as: "+0.30s" then this internal is probably by far the best one in the defensive slot, highly recommend it.(Dackstrus confirmed +.3s)
Functional:
  • E.U. Canisters: Only useful in siege mode. I would only consider equipping these if i had a team with a E.U. mule strategy to back me up.
  • Thrusters: Get to know your mech; if you think this internal fits your playstyle i see nothing wrong with purchasing it.
  • Fuel generators: Get to know your mech; if you think this internal fits your playstyle i see nothing wrong with purchasing it.
  • Fuel canisters: Get to know your mech; if you think this internal fits your playstyle i see nothing wrong with purchasing it.
  • Radars: Useless. Default radar range is about the size of your minimap. increasing your radar range is therefore useless as you will not be able to make use of the increased range.
6. countermeasures: I will not cover countermeasures in this guide since they are currently the source of much criticism and their pricing is ridiculous. I sincerely hope MTR/ADH removes these from the game.

7. Other useful links.
Poetess' promo code sharing thread.
Saturnine's Guide to Classes
Community created Wiki
HWK basic combat guide offers full coverage of basic keybinds and UI.
HAWKEN Tips and Tricks Thread byArnieF4440,
Lore guide by Neverm0re
WolfyFTW Mindgamer video series
h0B0's outdated tips videos
The official game guide and my response.

Please leave a comment other than "bump". I feel this topic might be helpful to all and deserves visibility.

Have Fun.
h0B0.

Edited by h0B0, July 16 2013 - 07:19 PM.

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#2 XenoMorph

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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:04 PM

tl;dr. Can you sum this up in a sentence for me h0B0 :huh:
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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:12 PM

Good thread for the fresh meat :D
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#4 h0B0

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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:14 PM

View PostXenoMorph, on December 16 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

"Probably a joke"
No. I won't sum it up for you.
But i might as well do it for the nubs.

Buy a 2nd mech first.
Save 4k HC for your level 25 prestige weapon.
Internals are pretty useless right now, don't waste HC here unless you have tons to spare and don't want to purchase any more mechs/items.
The tl;dr of CM's will get censored to fuzzy bunny.

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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:23 PM

+1 for using the word malus.  Hell, my spell checker does not even seem to know that word....
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#6 MaximumSquid

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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:27 PM

h0B0:

I think that EMP duration is based on how much battery power your mech has so EMP might get nerfed naturally after optimization gets reworked and they un-nerf internals

Also. . . Quick question about radar
Do other teammates share it's benefits or will only you receive them

Same question for scrambler. . . does it mess up allied units?

Edits:
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Edited by MaximumSquid, December 16 2012 - 02:33 PM.


#7 KoreanDoggyDog

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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:52 PM

Nice thread, to sum this up peeps, design your Mech by how you play (Your Style). Whether its CQC, MR, or LR. Defensively or Offensively. Sometimes offense is the best defence on the field. Good luck!

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Edited by KoreanDoggyDog, December 16 2012 - 02:54 PM.

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#8 h0B0

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Posted December 16 2012 - 02:53 PM

View PostMaximumSquid, on December 16 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

I think that EMP duration is based on how much battery power your mech has so EMP might get nerfed naturally after optimization gets reworked and they un-nerf internals. As far as i am concerned there is no "battery power" stat. Otherwise its effect would come into play sooner or later. And i have yet to experience such an event in the past 3 closed testing i was in. its just a fancy name they have given to the CM. In a similar fashion the C-RT's ability is name weapons coolant and there is no coolant stat. Although i might be wrong.

Also. . . Quick question about radar
Do other teammates share it's benefits or will only you receive them Entire team gets the bonuses and annoying enemy spotted spam.

Same question for scrambler. . . does it mess up allied units? no

View PostSystemiK, on December 16 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

+1 for using the word malus.  Hell, my spell checker does not even seem to know that word....
I am a francophone it came naturally. Bon = good, mal=bad. I had to google it to make sure anglos would understand it.

Edited by h0B0, December 16 2012 - 02:53 PM.

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Posted December 16 2012 - 04:53 PM

I saw repeated use of the word "malus" and immediately got excited that someone besides me had played E.Y.E.

Assault - "Vae Victis" | Brawler - "Dominus" | Sharpshooter - "Memento Mori"

Bruiser - "Non Serviam" | Berserker - "Furia"

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Posted December 16 2012 - 05:08 PM

Do you have a guide yet for dodging missiles?

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Posted December 16 2012 - 05:10 PM

View PostDeu, on December 16 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

Do you have a guide yet for dodging missiles?
You are playing the game wrong. Missiles are supposed to be blocked so they don't reach the giant tower.
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#12 KoreanDoggyDog

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Posted December 16 2012 - 05:20 PM

How to dodge missiles/rockets.

Basically dash right away when they're about to hit (sounds corny, "but slow them down with your mind" then you know when to dash away to dodge). Use your environment(as a wall or shield). If you use double tap or Shift to Dash. I prefer double tap cause then I can make a quick 180(press S twice if set to double tap) turn if you try to flank from my six.

Edit: @ Hobo, I'm sure he means playing against other Mech Pilots, not objective mode.

Edited by KoreanDoggyDog, December 16 2012 - 05:30 PM.

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#13 h0B0

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Posted December 16 2012 - 08:17 PM

View PostKoreanDoggyDog, on December 16 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

Edit: @ Hobo, I'm sure he means playing against other Mech Pilots, not objective mode.

Deu and XenoMorph are teasing me. They are both skilled players and have been playing for as long as i have. Not to mention they are fellow steel killers.

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#14 AcmeKillerRobot

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Posted December 16 2012 - 08:28 PM

View Posth0B0, on December 16 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

View PostDeu, on December 16 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

Do you have a guide yet for dodging missiles?
You are playing the game wrong. Missiles are supposed to be blocked so they don't reach the giant tower.
exemple


That's some good missle blocking! I'm a scout so I usually try to block them with my propane tank face!! :D

Also, nice guide. :)
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Posted December 17 2012 - 06:50 AM

View PostXenoMorph, on December 16 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

tl;dr. Can you sum this up in a sentence for me h0B0 :huh:
lol i reported this post, h0B0 took all that time to write something for the community. If you want to know what's what then read it.
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Posted December 17 2012 - 07:26 AM

Special weapon loader is worth it with a full movement spec'd Infil.  My nades keep up with my dodge, and with the HEAT nerf, nades are my main source of damage.  Thinking about swapping for explosive, but not sure that it's worth the malus on such a small mech to begin with.

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Posted December 17 2012 - 08:23 AM

h0B0 for 'nicest vet 2012' award.

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Posted December 17 2012 - 11:35 AM

Confirming that Repair Kit is what it is thought to be. +0.30 second to the startup timer.

With the optimization to begin repair faster, and this, you will start repairing in normal time, but heal for alot more.


It's actually kinda awesome, It used to take two repair cycles(With each time the animation starts being a cycle) for my little mech to go from nearly no health to max. Now it takes a single cycle since i'm fully optimized into it. Highly recommend this part.

Edited by Dackstrus, December 17 2012 - 11:56 AM.

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Posted December 17 2012 - 11:38 AM

View PostXenoMorph, on December 16 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

tl;dr. Can you sum this up in a sentence for me h0B0 :huh:

buy an emp

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Posted December 17 2012 - 05:39 PM

No love for the radar scrambler item? I feel that it messes me up whenever I experience them. I use it as an item.




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