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While I was searching for anything new about why Hawken is/was missing from the official Reloaded Games website, I noticed something different that wasn't there the last time I was there.

 

 

http://dj2entertainm...ilm-and-series/

 

HAWKEN (Film, Reloaded Games/505 Games/TBA estimated release 2019)

 

(the TBA is an unannounced partner, which I think is related to the Skymoons studio I reported on previously)

 

http://dj2entertainm...en-feature-film

http://dj2entertainment.com/new-page-8

 

It seems as if someone has rekindled the interest in the full length feature film that was written years ago.  I was always under the personal belief that a full length feature film would bring interest and awareness to this game.  I just question and wonder if the game can survive until it gets here, 2019 is still 2 years away.

 

It also explains why Reloaded added that 2012 Machinima live action trailer to the intro cutscenes on the console version.

 

Thoughts?

 

 
 

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from http://dj2entertainment.com/about/ ; as of 3/11/2017 :

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who the fk? he's done what now? funny his names not in the hawken credits in game.....


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from http://dj2entertainment.com/about/ ; as of 3/11/2017 :

 

Yeah, the youtube channel that is housing the live action trailers uses the same photo.

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/jetjevons

 

Pretty sure he's always been involved with the feature film same with Dmitri Johnson.

 

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2972351/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2237657/

 

 

 

who the fk? he's done what now? funny his names not in the hawken credits in game.....

 

DJ2 has owned the movie rights from way back in like 2011.  I think they have always kept the two separated though, so I don't think he was involved with anything ingame.  


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ss it says they consulted (influenced it) on it here and created the brand bible (also influential and instrumental to resulting failure)  http://dj2entertainment.com/new-page-8

 

thats something that warrants being on the in game credits imo

 

and being fking held accountable for the main focal point of their $30,000,000 brand, the IP hawken the game, being sold for $50,000


Edited by ArchMech, 11 April 2017 - 11:12 PM.

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yup arch got a wall of text for this one and will need editing, its 3:30 am

the mentality behind this page http://dj2entertainm...-is-transmedia/

 

it's almost similar in a sense to what the SJWism did to mass effect, in attempting to (in this case) make a consulting business OF making stories FOR a brands interest in simultaneous/interconnected product/media outlet diversification, a business that can transcend certain media channel preference barriers, development staff limitations, pop culture differences, or/as well as individual and societal differences, through whatever means necessary, they may end up killing the (mostly) indie brand(s) they are working on by spending/absorbing all their appropriated budget for little gain to the IP/brand. in this case they focus on multi-medium catering*(see below) their story rather then what the catastrophe that andromeda was/is

 

* (id prefer the term "calibrating blindly" here over "catering", you aren't catering if you aren't really listening to your fan base you are so ecstatic about, in an analogy: you're adjusting dials at random trying to get an xbone to connect to the PSN, is what that is)

 

 

furthermore most of that that isn't anything that hasn't already been done (correctly) and talked about for 2 decades, for reference remember:

"lets make an anime to air in japan, market as a cartoon to america, 30 seasons, books, comics, with 15+ iterations of a video game on one single hand held platform brand's multiple series's of device, 1 iteration of an AR video game on a mobile platform, a dozen+ sets of 100+ TCG merchandise with foil limited or exclusive options, plushies, key chains, action figures, and other collectibles, we'll call it "peg pokemen in the ass" our slogan will be "we beat DJ2 entertainment to this idea by 2 decades"" brand up since '96

 

FF, rpgs, mmorpgs, movies, an anime (adapted from a different ff movie?)

 

warhammer yea theres an animated movie out there

 

magic the gathering books, tcg, ccg, smaller scale ccg, a bad xbox game, some other sht brand up since '93

 

warcraft books, rts, mmorpg, tcg, ccg, 

 

hell even halo still managed to pull it off better then "DJ2" before AND AFTER bungie jumped ship with a few ways (wars, legends, that one book, those live action rumors that never even panned out were more fruitful then anything dj2 put together for hawken)

 

by comparison barring mass effect 1 and 2, bioware did a better job in what they attempted to do with mass effect through andromeda then DJ2 did with hawken's entire brand, and that is fuzzy bunnyng saying so much its fuzzy bunnyng ridiculous considering the level of failure attained with andromeda

 

and i mean that EVEN AFTER acknowledging the differences in scale between an indie staff and bioware/microsoft&bungie, but also reminding everyone the brand development price tag for hawken was after all rumored at $30,000,000, and i can only question how much of that was paid out TO dj2, AND all those big brands started small too ANYWAY

 

success: $-4,000,000

diversification induced exponential success: $-9,000,000

product bankruptcy sale/buy up: +/- $50,000

absorbing millions of dollars for minimal efforts, distinctly abominable results, maintaining that failure was through no fault of your own, keeping your partial influence in the brand, bragging about perceived successes using a clear failure as an example, somehow working the terminology "bible" into an industry some bible freaks consider the devil incarnate, possibly also picking up an ownership stake of hawken in the process: priceless

 

 

 

"while also offering meaningful interconnection and expansion to the IP's overall 'canon'"

cringe worthy cuz i only ever hear "canon" as of late when the discussion is criticism of how the most recent something or other broke the whole operation and every fanboy is losing their damned mind 

 

"transmedia"

you belong in the trump administration for that one

 

and i love:

Transmedia Production uses many storytelling tools including digital media, games, video, television, theatrical, print, social, mobile and a whole host of other new and evolving platforms (e.g. VR).

 

thats adorable, did you consult for defiance too? big help you were i'd imagine you're only selling point: "DIVERSIFY MORE, FAIL HARDER, PAY ME MORE" 

"e.g. VR"

but not AR?

also why are we all still calling psuedo 4k on a display measured in INCHES attached to a box on your HEAD vr? PLUG AND PLAY BRAIN NETWORKING w/virtualized environment quantifiable sensory input OR G.T.F.O.

 

 

 

honestly i could imagine DJ2 being the type to (if given the opportunity) destroy any brand and still make money, i surmise they are wholly accountable for the downfall thus far of hawken, and i believe their existence being revealed makes moot any excuses for its failure, it was rigged to fail FOR the money


Edited by ArchMech, 11 April 2017 - 11:54 PM.

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ss it says they consulted (influenced it) on it here and created the brand bible (also influential and instrumental to resulting failure)  http://dj2entertainment.com/new-page-8
 
thats something that warrants being on the in game credits imo


Shrug, I wouldn't say it was instrumental to resulting failure.  I mean the backstory of Hawken isn't the reason the game failed to keep players interested.  I'm not sure I follow what you are getting at.

Can someone take a look at the graphic novel and see if he's listed on it as an author?

 

and being fking held accountable for the main focal point of their $30,000,000 brand, the IP hawken the game, being sold for $50,000

 

Again, I'm not sure I'd hold him accountable, I'd put the blame more on the poor decisions and elaborate spendings of one Mr. Long.  I once heard a story about Meteor throwing a party at PAX East sometime around 2011 or 2012, the people that attended said it was crazy and one of the best hosted events they had ever been to, full bar, live music, etc.

Also, I'm not sure I can believe that whole 30-50k dollar purchase, I certainly haven't seen any actual evidence that supports those figures. I think its just people making figures up.  For the amount of money they had to work with, I'm sure the equipment that was placed on Joshs desk 2 years ago was well worth more than that amount.


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I'm sorry but... that jaw line.

 

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Somebody messed up in the character creation screen.


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i'm 99% sure it all about "hawken live action trailer" and nothing more. they just cheating with info on website a little. 


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I always assumed the 5 digit numbers for Hawken's purchase were a joke/meme/circlejerk about the state of the IP.

 

As for the probability of this being true, it doesn't seem like 505 or RLD really have the funds for a feature length film of any reasonable quality, and film adaptations of any kind don't seem to be something either company have any history of doing. If this is a real project, I would guess it to be something like the Hawken coin where an outside party came to RLD/505 asking for some type of licencing deal in which all of the actual production and stuff would be handled and RLD/505 simply had to sign on the dotted line.


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Detective SS strikes again xD

 

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I had reservations whether or not to even bother posting it for a day or so, but Coldforms kind words in the other thread changed my mind and I thought I could farm more likes Kappa.

 

 

i'm 99% sure it all about "hawken live action trailer" and nothing more. they just cheating with info on website a little. 

 

I disagree.  This is way more than that and always has been.  Theres tons of old articles from back in 2011 about a film adaptation of Hawken.  Not sure why you don't believe its possible.

 

 

I always assumed the 5 digit numbers for Hawken's purchase were a joke/meme/circlejerk about the state of the IP.

 

As for the probability of this being true, it doesn't seem like 505 or RLD really have the funds for a feature length film of any reasonable quality, and film adaptations of any kind don't seem to be something either company have any history of doing. If this is a real project, I would guess it to be something like the Hawken coin where an outside party came to RLD/505 asking for some type of licencing deal in which all of the actual production and stuff would be handled and RLD/505 simply had to sign on the dotted line.

 

I totally agree on the 5 digit numbers part, and this is 100% true, its been in the works for years.  I just think it was all placed on hold when Meteor tanked and the money train ran out.

 

I'm also not sure how Reloaded had any say so since DJ2 always owned the movie rights independently.  If DJ2 were able to find someone willing to invest recently, I don't think they needed Reloadeds approval to move forward.  From Reloadeds point of view it would only benefit them by increasing the overall awareness of Hawken, so you'd have to be rather silly to not want to jump onboard for the free ride.  


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I'd play Hawken:The Movie, the videogame. It's got that really great storyline.


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And if it does come out, watch and see as they fuzzy bunny up the scaling even more somehow.

 

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ingame, mechs seem about 15-20ft tall(4.5 - 6m)

 

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I'd play Hawken:The Movie, the videogame. It's got that really great storyline.

 

My favorite part of the script is when a few of the senior pilots spend about 7 minutes just arguing why 'Scanners are Teh Cancer'

 

* I'd watch it. They probably need to center on 1-2 two pilots for cost and story reasons though


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And if it does come out, watch and see as they fuzzy bunny up the scaling even more somehow.

 

 

I'm not overly concerned with the scaling, I am worried about the entire story and characters.  Examples: Need For Speed, Doom, Double Dragon, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Wing Commander, Max Payne, and Lara Croft Tomb Raider, to name just a few.  Also if you want to get technical, I disliked all the Transformers movies because they didn't retain the same building blocks that were already defined in the toy line, comics, cartoons and animated movie.


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I was looking forword to the web series back then now its nothing more then wishfull thinking I would still love to see a movie on hawken on the big screen. I hope this is true


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Again, I'm not sure I'd hold him accountable, I'd put the blame more on the poor decisions and elaborate spendings of one Mr. Long.  I once heard a story about Meteor throwing a party at PAX East sometime around 2011 or 2012, the people that attended said it was crazy and one of the best hosted events they had ever been to, full bar, live music, etc.

Can't speak for East, but at Prime (now west), my friend went to it (IIRC, they rented the Hard Rock for it), and
he came back very inebriated due to the open bar.

Hard Rock Cafe, downtown Seattle, during PAX, the weekend that arguably brings in the most money to the city economy for the year. Yes, not cheap.


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yup arch got a wall of text for this one and will need editing, its 3:30 am

the mentality behind this page http://dj2entertainm...-is-transmedia/

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and i love:

Transmedia Production uses many storytelling tools including digital media, games, video, television, theatrical, print, social, mobile and a whole host of other new and evolving platforms (e.g. VR).

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SRSLY though, where's our Hawken off-Broadway musical?!


 

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Ok, everyone needs to look up 'Red VS Blue' on Youtube

 

I wish they'd test ideas for media in a lower stakes way first

 

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SRSLY though, where's our Hawken off-Broadway musical?!

 

 

You mean on Broadway right?

 

Remember aim high and accept anything less.

 

 

Ok, everyone needs to look up 'Red VS Blue' on Youtube

 

I wish they'd test ideas for media in a lower stakes way first

 

https://www.youtube....cmhh5j8lS4cexBQ

 

This is remnants of decisions made years ago man, this isn't Reloaded trying to make a freaking movie since buying the IP, its DJ2 not wanting to throw away all the effort and investment they put into things years ago.  Think about it for a minute.

 

That also reminded me of this for some reason.

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So nobody's gunna mention the Blacklight Retribution film DJ2 just happens to be working on also?

 

I find it interesting that Blacklight was a product of Zombie Studios, which just happened to be started and owned by Mark Long.  I swear its like he's Kevin Bacon and everything around here can be connected to him within 6 links.  It just seems to coincidental if you ask me.

 

And Nov8tr if you were a real Futurama fan you'd realize that Bender only gets inebriated when he doesn't drink alcohol. 


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As with all Videogame movies, movies based on video games and whatnot, it sounds good on paper, the trailer gets the fans hyped and excited then you watch the movie and it's either a steaming pile of fuzzy bunny or just really underwhelming.

 

See: "Ratchet and Clank the movie"

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Well, that's true , but that also used to be true for Comic Book movies, and those improved quite a bit



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Soooo, the idea of Hawken movie is back? Damn, I thought that one mistake was enough.

 

Can someone take a look at the graphic novel and see if he's listed on it as an author?

 

Who, Dan Jevons? He's listed as story staff (with Miles Williams and Khang Le). And as DJ2 CCO, as you may think.

 


That also reminded me of this for some reason.

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So nobody's gunna mention the Blacklight Retribution film DJ2 just happens to be working on also?

 

I find it interesting that Blacklight was a product of Zombie Studios, which just happened to be started and owned by Mark Long.  I swear its like he's Kevin Bacon and everything around here can be connected to him within 6 links.  It just seems to coincidental if you ask me.

 

And Nov8tr if you were a real Futurama fan you'd realize that Bender only gets inebriated when he doesn't drink alcohol. 

 

I did notice that when I had checked the site. I had played Blacklight Retribution for quite while (since 2013 I believe) and I'm not sure whether to be surprised or not.

 

Zombie Studios dissolved after Mark Long left, causing Andy Kipling and Russel Nelson to make their own studio (Hardsuit Labs, originally named Builder Box) to take control of the Blacklight IP. They promised big things and screwed the game over by porting a console build that was further ahead in development content-wise than its PC counterpart (sound familiar?) which, granted, was what everyone asked for. However, it was a direct, straight port from console including optimisation, layouts, balancing, and textures which were designed for console. Further poor balance choices, pricing choices, and a lack of content stream caused it all to go down the shitter. They even announced that for 2017 there would be very few patches, perhaps 1 or 2 tiny ones. Upon being asked about a large amount of features that would drastically improve the game, the reply from one of the leaders of the team was rather off-putting.

 

So was this one.

And this one.

 

It could have been possible that Zombie Studios signed that contract / invested that money before it fell, or that more contracts are being signed with DJ2 and they're getting the name wrong. If a Blacklight:R movie comes about, I don't think I'll have too high of hopes for it. There could be a possibility that it would be good but, I'm not keeping my hopes up. 

 

It makes me wonder whether the funding for these projects comes from the developers of the games that they base the movies off of, or if the devs simply sign a contract to say 'you can use this' and the funding comes from elsewhere..

Perhaps it has already been said before and I am ignorant, but would you happen to know anything about that / be able to find anything about that, SS396?


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I did notice that when I had checked the site. I had played Blacklight Retribution for quite while (since 2013 I believe) and I'm not sure whether to be surprised or not.

 

Zombie Studios dissolved after Mark Long left, causing Andy Kipling and Russel Nelson to make their own studio (Hardsuit Labs, originally named Builder Box) to take control of the Blacklight IP. They promised big things and screwed the game over by porting a console build that was further ahead in development content-wise than its PC counterpart (sound familiar?) which, granted, was what everyone asked for. However, it was a direct, straight port from console including optimisation, layouts, balancing, and textures which were designed for console. Further poor balance choices, pricing choices, and a lack of content stream caused it all to go down the shitter. They even announced that for 2017 there would be very few patches, perhaps 1 or 2 tiny ones. Upon being asked about a large amount of features that would drastically improve the game, the reply from one of the leaders of the team was rather off-putting.

 

So was this one.

And this one.

 

It could have been possible that Zombie Studios signed that contract / invested that money before it fell, or that more contracts are being signed with DJ2 and they're getting the name wrong. If a Blacklight:R movie comes about, I don't think I'll have too high of hopes for it. There could be a possibility that it would be good but, I'm not keeping my hopes up. 

 

It makes me wonder whether the funding for these projects comes from the developers of the games that they base the movies off of, or if the devs simply sign a contract to say 'you can use this' and the funding comes from elsewhere..

Perhaps it has already been said before and I am ignorant, but would you happen to know anything about that / be able to find anything about that, SS396?

unreal !...this guy Michael Athey sounds like a piece of work...seems to be more concerned with the look of his haircut and beard than doing the right things to bring his customers a quality product with the game he's responsible for...where have I've seen this story before ? :rolleyes:  


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Upon being asked about a large amount of features that would drastically improve the game, the reply from one of the leaders of the team was rather off-putting.

 

So was this one.

And this one.

 

 

 

Geez, that guy seems really fun at parties.

 

 

 

It makes me wonder whether the funding for these projects comes from the developers of the games that they base the movies off of, or if the devs simply sign a contract to say 'you can use this' and the funding comes from elsewhere..

Perhaps it has already been said before and I am ignorant, but would you happen to know anything about that / be able to find anything about that, SS396?

 

Not really, I have no clue how the inner workings of film funding goes, I'm just an individual that gets really bored sometimes and thats willing to look through more than the first two links in the results of google, and come to a conclusion.  If I had to guess I'd say the 2nd half of your statement is the way it actually works though.  I believe that the film company that owns the IP goes out and finds people/companies willing to invest for a return in their investment at some point in the future.  I think the last option on the list is for them to have to find a bank to loan them the money for a film.  Somewhere in between is product placement deals (examples Terminator 2 and Subway, Transformers and General Motors). 

 

 

unreal !...this guy Michael Athey sounds like a piece of work...seems to be more concerned with the look of his haircut and beard than doing the right things to bring his customers a quality product with the game he's responsible for...where have I've seen this story before ? :rolleyes:  

 

HAHA, looks like you poked the badger and got him to respond, lol.


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Not really, I have no clue how the inner workings of film funding goes, I'm just an individual that gets really bored sometimes and thats willing to look through more than the first two links in the results of google, and come to a conclusion.  If I had to guess I'd say the 2nd half of your statement is the way it actually works though.  I believe that the film company that owns the IP goes out and finds people/companies willing to invest for a return in their investment at some point in the future.  I think the last option on the list is for them to have to find a bank to loan them the money for a film.  Somewhere in between is product placement deals (examples Terminator 2 and Subway, Transformers and General Motors). 

 

 

I see. Your insight is useful at the very least, as I've no true understanding of the situation at large and thus making drastic judgements would be a tad unfair of me. :)

 

If the latter half of my statement is how it is being performed, then I suppose there is no harm in it. If the movie turns out good, it's another good indie move to add to the roster and will give some nice PR for Hawken. If the movie turns out bad, the game will still get attention regardless and those willing to try it may enjoy it as quality of move =/= quality of game. Either way it is sliced, it gets the game attention.

If it is the former half, however, I'll be shocked as a project such as this would be way too large of a money sap for such a small team who really needs all the funds and manpower that they can get at this point. 

Thank you for your input regardless. :)
 

 

Geez, that guy seems really fun at parties.

 

I still have a hard time believing that he is the VP of that company, and that he treats the rightfully concerned and inquisitive playerbase of the game he owns with such curtness and disrespect. As someone who spent money on the game in order to show my support, I'm insulted. One could argue that spending that money was a choice, but so is treating your playerbase like children after they've taken lethal dose of sugar and sherbert.


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